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Homemade Weed Control: no need to poison children

acidif there is a woody plant i want to be rid of, i cut the plant about 1 foot from the ground. this leaves a good amount to pull the whole root ball from the ground.  and then i pour a few drops of hydrochloric acid into the top where the cut is.

Hydrochloric acid is a clear, colorless, highly pungent solution of hydrogen chloride in water. It is a highly corrosive, strong mineral acid with many industrial uses. Hydrochloric acid is found naturally in gastric acid. Wikipedia
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Alternatives to chemical weed control
The cheapest weed control option is obviously prevention. There are many practices that we can adopt to ensure we do not introduce weeds onto our property.  There are 6 principles of weed management:1. Awareness – be aware of potential and existing weed problems.

2. Detection – look for any new weed infestations before they become too large or widespread.
3. Planning – Prioritise the treatment of weeds, what weeds threaten the profitability of your grazing    enterprise the most e.g. lippia, creeping lantana.
4. Prevention – far better than a cure, a $100/hour for a contractor to clean down seed laden machinery is much cheaper than any 20 litre drum of chemical.   Another example is feeding hay and grain only in designated areas to reduce risk of new ween introduction.
5. Intervene – Do it early this keeps a potentially large problem manageable.
6. Control and monitor – any weed needs to be monitored after control to ensure success.



Why is acid always added to water, and not the reverse?

A large amount of heat is released when strong acids are mixed with water. Adding more acid releases more heat. If you add water to acid, you form an extremely concentrated solution of acid initially. So much heat is released that the solution may boil very violently, splashing concentrated acid out of the container! If you add acid to water, the solution that forms is very dilute and the small amount of heat released is not enough to vaporize and spatter it. So Always Add Acid to water, and never the reverse.
Author: Fred Senese


Weed and Grass Killer Organic

Sat May 04, 2013 5:37 pm
Vinegar 5% is only slightly effective on many plants and works only in very hot dry weather.

Pickling Vinegar 9% works much better kills small plants works best in hot dry weather.

Dissolve 12 lbs. of salt in 5 gallons of boiling water. Works great in hot dry weather. Water softener salt is $5 for 50 lbs. Lowe’s and Home Depot.

Pickling Vinegar plus 10% salt works better. Kills most small plants except for the large 2 ft tall weeds, thistle weed and other hard to kill large weeds.

Stomach Acid is Hydrochloric Acid = Muriatic Acid = Brick Acid. Muriatic Acid contains 60% water. Dissolve 3 lbs. of salt in 3 gallons of hot water then add a gallon of 40% strength Muriatic Acid. Kills all weeds and grass.

Muriatic Acid is $4 and up per gallon, swimming pool supply has it the cheapest.

Re: Weed and Grass Killer. Organic
Sat May 04, 2013 10:22 pm
Almost forgot to mention. Put dish soap in the water it makes it stick to the plants. Some plants water runs right off like it is oily.


Re: Weed and Grass Killer. Organic
Wed May 08, 2013 1:12 am
I sprayed some weeds today about 10 am. It is now 6 pm the weeds are dead.

I mixed 1 quart of swimming pool type 30% muriatic acid with 2 quarts of water. Nothing else was added. Temperature here has been about 80 degrees all day. Now at 6 pm we are having 20 mph winds. Weeds are dried up and dead.

10% acid and 90% water works great.

Kills, pig weed, rage weed, lambs quarter weed, Ambrosia weed, several others.

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Re: Weed and Grass Killer. Organic
Sat Jul 25, 2015 6:10 pm
Our HOA has 1 mile of fence line between pasture land and the road. In July 2015 I purchased 1200 pounds of Cargill TopFlow sodium chloride fine ground I used a Scotts professional spreader on the max setting of 15. After 1 week all grasses and most weeds are dying. Crabgrass, thorny weeds and vines look fine. Will repeat this in 3 weeks and again this winter (2015-2016). Hoping this is enough. Spring 2016 will tell. Looking for a 5 year solution. I may have to reapply 1x per year, but that is fine, compared to every 3 mos of Eraser (Round Up equiv) and I can do this in 1/10th of the time.

Further Reading

chemistry fun including muriatic acid


8Over 20 years ago, i learned agnihotra at a weekend workshop in Humpy near Mapleton.  And it was my practice for a period of time, sunrise and sunset. I bought my kit on the sunshine coast when Lee Ringma from Agnihotra Australia visited as part of a workshop tour.

from their website  …. “We also regularly organise Workshop Tours coming to your location to conduct free workshops.The geographical area we cover is Australia, New Zealand and Asia.The Workshops, Talks and Courses are conducted as voluntary work, as service and hence are free of charge. We accept sponsorship for the travel, food and accomodation costs.”

Buy your kit.

Agnihotra (Homa) consists of making two offerings to the fire exactly at the time of sunrise & sunset along with two small Sanskrit mantras. Agnihotra is regarded a process of purification of the atmosphere as a cumulative effect of various scientific and sonic principles harnessed to give rise to an unparalled purifying and healing phenomenon. The benefits, both spiritual and mundane, that accrue to sacrificers is said to be enormous.

How to perform Agnihotra in Summary

1. Smear few cow dung chips with ghee and arrange them in the Agnihotra pot.
2. Mix about a teaspoon full of rice with a small amount of ghee and keep them aside.
3. Start the fire few minutes before sunrise/sunset time.

While chanting the mantra offer the rice smeared with ghee (just enough that one can hold in the tip
of five fingers) at the utterance of ‘Swaaha’ ie ‘Sváhá’ in the fire.

There are only two offerings at Sunset or Sunrise each in the Agnihotra fire.

Mantra At Sunrise:  listen

Sooryáya Sváhá
(add the first portion of rice)
Sooryáya Idam Na Mama

Prajápataye Sváhá
(add the second portion of rice)
Prajápataye Idam Na Mama

Unto the fire I am offering all.
This offering is not mine, it is Thine.

Mandtra At Sunset:  listen

Agnaye Sváhá
(add the first portion of rice)
Agnaye Idam Na Mama
Prajápataye Sváhá
(add the second portion of rice)
Prajápataye Idam Na Mama

Unto the sun I am offering this offering.
This is not mine, this is Thine.

Word to Word Meanings:
Agnaye … fire
Sooryáya … sun

swáhá … offering
idam … this
na mama … not mine
prajá- … all the living
pataye … The Lord

Word to word meaning does not give the purport of the mantras.

 When the mantras are chanted in the meter in which they are composed, by Supreme Grace the inherent meaning and the power and vibrations impact the entire creation. The healing occurs at the grass roots level in the subtlest manner.
 This power of the mantra is locked into the ashes that develop in the fire upon the oblations.
These vibrations pulsate the entire universe in a profound, subtle but sure impact and affect.
 It is like the fragrance and beauty of a flower when the flower is in the form of a bud.
 By grace it radiates all its beauty and joy for the good of the entire universe.
…Guruji Shree Mohan Jadhav

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The Phenomena of Agnihotra Homa Practice

free ebook download    agni hotra: ancient sollution to modern pollution

How to Videos

videos by Bruce Johnson and wife Anne Godfrey really deserve mentioning here

and Rose Circles

Further Reading and Viewing:

Video Testimonials via Agnihotraworld




My Do’s and Don’ts

lushvegNone of these are required in nature:
soil preparation, fertilization, irrigation, weed control, pest control, crop rotation, ph balancing, bio-innoculation, compost tea-ing

With SlowFastSoil, the following are no longer necessary:

  • creating different beds for sun-loving and shade-loving food plants
  • tilling
  • digging
  • companion planting
  • composting
  • worm casting or juice

Most non-toxic food production methods, materials, infrastructure and tools for both the home/market garden and commercial cropper comprises a continual  adding ingredients into and atop the soil and doing things to the soil,  along with a constant wondering about the viability of soil.

Most non-toxic growers begin their food growing on soil which is not ideal. The ways that they set out to improve it and get things growing as soon as possible, are many and varied, as the following forum partiipants discuss.

What I Don’t Do Anymore: ie because slow fast soil makes it all so unnecessary

  • Lots of Swaling
  • Regular Watering
  • Mulching with Deep Straw
  • Raised Beds
  • Worrying over what to feed the garden.
  • Huge Compost Heaps
  • Worm Farms
  • Continual Compost Tea
  • Manure Water
  • Green Manuring Crop
  • Crop Rotation

What I Still Do:

Smaller Compost Heaps – to create a planting medium (as you cannot plant straight into the woody mulch mix).

Initial (not continual) Compost Tea-ing

Grow Hedgerows or Borders of suitable plants for :

  • crop and drop – for lay mulching
  • putting through shredder  – for lay mulching
  • compost heaps – to create a planting medium

Use Humanure when I am living in a place where I have built my own worry-free compost toilet.

what i am no longer impressed by:

  • AquaCulture

what i have never impressed by:

Top 12 Garden Trends for 2014


1. Grafted Vegetable Plants

2. Not Using GMO Seeds

3. Planting Raised, Stackable Beds, and Container Bags

4. Bee Gardening

5. Planting for Health Benefits/Foraging

6. Herbs-Medicinal and Culinary

7. Growing Exotic and Unusual Vegetables

8. Themed Seed Samplers

9. Growing Small/Rooftops

10. Growing “Super Foods“

11. Fermentation

12. Sprouts & Micro Greens

The Importance of traditional cultures and indigenous practices

The Melanesian Way Inc. Papua New Guinea (tmwpng)

culture12.jpg“We loved and enjoyed the dance but tired now and know nothing about what it means?”

We have heard comments that our cultures and traditions are old-fashioned; they hold back progress in nation building and that we should completely forget about them and adopt new ways of life. Some say they are ‘dirty’ and ‘primitive’. They are perceived as negative by the new generation. Adding on all these claims, a report by the Pacific Women Against Violence (Volume 1, Issue 10) stated that Pacific Islands cultures and unequal relationship between men and women contribute largely to violence against women in the region. But the report then challenges its own findings that domestic violence is an international problem that is thriving locally – not alone grown by Melanesian way of life.
Many of us do not agree with all these comments because some of us are living examples of what our cultures and…

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Mary Valley Country Harvest Co-op

I am visiting the Dagun Station Growers market tomorrow arvo from 3 – 5pm at Dagun Railway Station.  i am so looking forward to it. I have not been there for so long.

the market is one activity of the  Mary Valley Country Harvest Co-opcropped-web-header1

keyline design mark IV by collins & doherty

On their blog,  HeenanDoherty has a posted a paper originally posted here in all its glory ie with pictures and format. I made an attempt to contact HeenanDoherty via a comment On their blog, to no avail – the page would not let me comment. 

I have republished AN EXTRACT below.  And have created a PDF document from the original source here

To download this worthy paper, go here.


KEYLINE DESIGN Mark IV   Soil, Water & Carbon for Every Farm’

Building Soils, Harvesting Rainwater, Storing Carbon

 by Abe Collins[1] & Darren J. Doherty [2]


Keyline Design was first developed by the great Australian, P.A. Yeomans (1904-1984), in the late 1940’s & 50’s initially as a practical response to the unpredictable rainfall regime he found on his new property, ‘Nevallan’, to the west of Sydney, New South Wales, Australia. Soil Conservation, as developed by the US Army Corp of Engineers was the predominant practice of the time and for a time Yeomans was influenced by this, though soon found somewhat deficiencies with the pattern of water flow its application expressed. Yeomans went on to devote the rest of his life to the promotion, research and development of Keyline Design and in doing so was labelled by Permaculture co-originator Bill Mollison as ‘…one of Australia’s greatest patriots…[3]’.

Influenced[4] by the likes of prominent organic agriculture figures in Andre Voison, Friend Sykes, Newman Turner & Louis Bromfield (among many others!) Yeomans has been attributed with being the 1st person to accelerate soil formation through the stacking of methods, overturning the myth that it took 1000 years to create an inch of topsoil. Yeomans proclaimed that ‘…the landman’s job is not so much to conserve soil as it is to develop soil, to improve his soil his soil and to make it more fertile than it ever was…’.[5]

The development of the Permaculture concept owes much to P.A. Yeomans[6], not only for its enduring and effective landscape patterning, but also for the integrated business framework that he developed over the 40 odd years that he worked in developing a myriad of enterprises around Keyline®. From the 1950 – 1970’s there was a nationally (in Australia) published ‘Keyline’ magazine, authorship of articles & books, at least three operational broadacre R&D farms under his control, CSIRO support (up until 1958), a ‘Keyline Foundation’, an established international property design & development consultancy, Chisel Plow, ‘Delver’, ‘Tritter’, ‘Keyline Plow’, Lockpipe, ‘Bunyip Level’,  and ‘Ag-Yo’ or ‘Yobanite’ manufacture & sales. How Yeomans managed such a diverse business model over many years is a tribute to the man’s capability and is unparalleled in the Permaculture (or Agriculture!) industry despite the devices of modern communications.

Stunned by the loss of his brother-in-law Jim Barnes, in a grass fire in 1944 on ‘Nevallan’, Yeomans brought to bear his vast experience as a mine overseer and earthmover to capture and store rainwater in large ponds (referred to in Australia as ‘farm dams’) across broadacre landscapes which ‘so lush and green all year round, they would be virtually fireproof’[7] and droughtproof. Similar climate regions across the world suffer similarly and the clearly the adoption of Keyline methods would be a primary form of solid-state risk management for both rural and urban landscapes alike. I commonly get requests from clients and correspondents to design both fireproof & droughtproof landscapes and fortunately Keyline provides the effective template.

According to Yeomans the ‘inseparable trinity of landscape design’ were climate, landshape and water supply, with roads, trees, buildings, fencing & soils being the ‘more negotiable remainder of the hierarchy’. Yeomans labeled this prioritization the ‘Keyline Scale of Permanence’ as a foundation to the process involved with planning permanent landscapes. Interestingly it is now evident that the loss of carbon in agricultural soils. I commonly say that Permaculture itself ‘lacks a clear decision making process’[8]: the Keyline Scale of Permanence’ and latterly Allan Savory’s landmark ‘Holistic Management® Model’ ably provide the models for the Permaculture ‘toolkit’. These methodologies lack the integrated design principles such as those espoused and continually expanded by Permaculturalists, so combining these approaches makes obvious sense and follows the intellectual pathway led by Yeomans, Savory, David Holmgren, Bill Mollison along with Dr. John Todd[9], Dr. George Chan & Gunter Pauli[10]     among others.

The following article serves to outline many of these processes as part of the ongoing evolution of Keyline or Keyline Design Mark IV as I am calling it, and was developed by Abe Collins & myself for our various seminars.

The Keyline Plan

”A comprehensive design strategy for agricultural and urban development based on fundamental, repeating land shapes that have been created by water” Abe Collins

Key components:

  • Rapid development of biologically active, fertile soil within a systematically designed landscape.  During an average three-year conversion phase, four to six inches of new topsoil are typically formed each year. This new topsoil stores large quantities of water in the landscape.
  • Design for the harvest, storage and distribution of water on the landscape forms the foundation of the Keyline Plan.
  • Run-off water is stored in dams.  This water is later released for rapid, gravity-powered flood-irrigation.
  • Roads, forests buildings and fencing follow primary water layout and fit together within the lay of the land.
  • The Keyline landscape is a permanent landscape in which every infrastructure component helps ensure the maintenance and renewal of the topsoil within it.

“The hallmarks on the properties of successful Keyline farmers are lakes with water birds, contour and ridge line roads and contoured strip forests, dark fertile soil, luxuriant healthy green crops and feed.” Ken Yeomans[11]    

New Topsoil Can Be Created Quickly

Factors that determine soil fertility:

  • The mineralogical and structural framework
  • The prevailing climate
  • The soil’s biotic associations

Soil has a life and environment of its own.  The biotic association can be modified through modification of the soil microclimate.

Soil life responds dramatically to ideal air, moisture, food and temperature conditions.  These conditions are simple to create with grazing, subsoiling and dependable rainfall or irrigation. Life begets Life.   Plants, their roots and attendant exudates are the solar harvesters and the raw food of soil life. Grazing animals are ‘biological accelerators’ they are the most effective tool we can use to speed mineral cycling, and graziers affect enough land to make a large impact.


Graziers can build topsoil more quickly than anyone else on earth

pasture cowThe work of the Yeomans Family, their forebears and contemporaries, Savory and more recently Collins, Dr. Llewellen Manske[12], & others have clearly demonstrated a variety of means available to increase air, water and organic materials: only the scientists who policy-makers choose to listen to need convincing.

[1]   Carbon Farmers of America co-founder,, Swanton, VT

[2]   Australia Felix Permaculture,, Bendigo, VIC

[3]   Mollison, B., Permaculture Design Certificate Course, Tyalgum, NSW, 1995

[4]   Yeomans, A.J., Homage to P.A. Yeomans, Gold Coast, QLD, 19

[5]   Yeomans, P.A., The Challenge of Landscape, Keyline Press, Sydney, NSW, 1958, pp 166.

[6]   Hill, S.B., Yeomans Keyline Design for Sustainable Soil, Water, Agroecosystem & Biodiversity Conservation: A Personal Social Ecology Analysis, University of Western Sydney, NSW, 2001

[7], Keyline & Fertile Futures, Sydney, NSW, 2007

[8], Keyline & Fertile Futures, Sydney, NSW, 2007

[9], Principles for Designing Eco-Machines, Burlington, VT, 2008

[10], About ZERI: The Science Behind It, 2008

[11], Yeomans, K.B., Keyline Designs, Gold Coast, QLD, 2005

[12], UND, 2008